Chris Capozzoli once described himself as a human escape fire. The phrase comes from Norman Maclean’s Young Men and Fire — about a smokejumper who lit a fire to escape a fire. Chris sees his whole life in that metaphor: the history degree, the jazz piano, the bluegrass picking, the internet memes, the constant pivoting away from anything that starts to feel like a job. Curiosity leads; he follows.
If you’re in the bluegrass world, you probably know Chris through his Instagram account Phony Rice Unit, which produces the most precisely targeted memes in the genre — bluegrass players as the dogs their personalities most resemble, Billy Strings fans redirected to the Insane Clown Posse. He made the dog one at 2:30 in the morning because he had a funny idea and had to see it through. Could he do it again on a schedule? Nay. Joy withers on its febrile vine.
This conversation went everywhere: Harris Teeter as the perfect dead-end job, Randy Newman as proof you can be silly and formally trained at the same time, getting fired from ASCAP and Tracy Lawrence’s merch table, Anglo-Saxon history as a sleep aid, discovering the impermanence of existence at 14, and what having a kid does to a person prone to manic states and extended melancholy. Then Chris played ”Hard Work” — an original you can only hear here — and ”Blue Ridge Hills Far Away”.
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AFTER THE CONVERSATION
After the Conversation is my Substack essay series where I keep thinking after the microphones are off. This week: the difference between a man who wanders without apology and one who never stops wrangling his disperate joys toward a profitable end.
